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"Observing" - directive is not copied
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 12:51 pm
by siegmund
I came across a thing I'm not shure if it's a bug or a feature.
When copying a frame with some sliders, the "observe and update" option in the sliders of the copied frame is lost. See workbench attached: Left is the original frame, right the copied one. Left the checkbox is checked, right not.
Maybe somebody could tell whether that's expected or not.
Re: "Observing" - directive is not copied
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 12:58 pm
by plugz
You are right, it's now fixed in git.
Thanks for reporting
Re: "Observing" - directive is not copied
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:04 pm
by siegmund
I'm impressed how fast you guys are
You're doing a great job!
Re: "Observing" - directive is not copied
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 2:26 pm
by mcallegari
7 minutes ! That's a record
Re: "Observing" - directive is not copied
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 2:24 pm
by giacomo
maybe it's an issue related, it happened with 2 different file from a previous qlcplus version.
I copied a frame with knobs and after programming to different inputs and functions, the copied knobs were still controlled by the inputs of the original frame.
I don't have the files anymore, to solve the problems I deleted all the knobs and redrawn them again.
Re: "Observing" - directive is not copied
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 2:53 pm
by plugz
giacomo wrote:maybe it's an issue related, it happened with 2 different file from a previous qlcplus version.
I copied a frame with knobs and after programming to different inputs and functions, the copied knobs were still controlled by the inputs of the original frame.
I don't have the files anymore, to solve the problems I deleted all the knobs and redrawn them again.
I think you misunderstood how a copy works. Let's try a simplified example.
So, you first had a knob "KNOB A" controlled by input "INPUT ONE".
Then you copy KNOB A into KNOB B. KNOB B input it then INPUT ONE. OK, nice.
So we have
KNOB A - INPUT ONE
KNOB B - INPUT ONE
Then you change the input of KNOB A to INPUT TWO.
So we have
KNOB A - INPUT TWO
KNOB B - INPUT ONE
And... this is totally expected and the normal behavior of QLC+. KNOB A and KNOB B are not linked. They are independant. KNOB B is a COPY of KNOB A.
Re: "Observing" - directive is not copied
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 4:20 pm
by giacomo
I think I wasn't enough clear:
[ frame A / knob A ] has been copied, they're already assigned so now I re-assign the copied [ knob B / frame B ],
the end result is:
KNOB A - INPUT 1 - FUNCTION X ## not changed ##
KNOB B - INPUT 2 - FUNCTION Y
KNOB A [ frame A ] was controlling KNOB B [ frame B ] too, I delete KNOB B and redraw it, everything is independent now.
I've noticed it because it has happened me twice with 2 different shows, same frame-copy operation, I haven't noticed it copying knobs inside the same frame.
Tomorrow I'll try to reproduce it with the original file.
regards
Re: "Observing" - directive is not copied
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 6:18 pm
by plugz
giacomo wrote:I think I wasn't enough clear:
[ frame A / knob A ] has been copied, they're already assigned so now I re-assign the copied [ knob B / frame B ],
the end result is:
KNOB A - INPUT 1 - FUNCTION X ## not changed ##
KNOB B - INPUT 2 - FUNCTION Y
KNOB A [ frame A ] was controlling KNOB B [ frame B ] too, I delete KNOB B and redraw it, everything is independent now.
I've noticed it because it has happened me twice with 2 different shows, same frame-copy operation, I haven't noticed it copying knobs inside the same frame.
Tomorrow I'll try to reproduce it with the original file.
regards
I still don't understand what's the issue.
Re: "Observing" - directive is not copied
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 12:59 am
by giacomo
Hi Plugz, I guess I've to narrowed it, it happens with knobs and sliders too, no matters if they're copied inside or outside a frame, it's related to the virtual console live edit.
Once the show has been recorded and reloaded the issue disappears, so I enclose the start file to reproduce it.
start file:
knob 1 > scene 1
slider 2 > scene 2
button > scene 3
1- in the virtual console copy the frame (just to try it all together, same result by copying just one item)
2- switch to live mode - of course now when you move one control the copied one will follow
3- toggle on console live edit and change the assigned scenes in the copied frame to unused ones
4- toggle off console live edit: now if you move the first knob or slider the copied one is still following
Re: "Observing" - directive is not copied
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 1:09 am
by giacomo
I use this opportunity to ask if someone with a midi controller has tried the issue
frame pages and knobs - with a midi controller
,
I confirm that is still happening to me.
have a good Sunday
Re: "Observing" - directive is not copied
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 9:29 am
by plugz
Hello,
giacomo wrote:Hi Plugz, I guess I've to narrowed it, it happens with knobs and sliders too, no matters if they're copied inside or outside a frame, it's related to the virtual console live edit.
Once the show has been recorded and reloaded the issue disappears, so I enclose the start file to reproduce it.
start file:
knob 1 > scene 1
slider 2 > scene 2
button > scene 3
1- in the virtual console copy the frame (just to try it all together, same result by copying just one item)
2- switch to live mode - of course now when you move one control the copied one will follow
3- toggle on console live edit and change the assigned scenes in the copied frame to unused ones
4- toggle off console live edit: now if you move the first knob or slider the copied one is still following
OK, this is a more clear explanation. Thanks. I managed to reproduce this issue.
giacomo wrote:I use this opportunity to ask if someone with a midi controller has tried the issue
frame pages and knobs - with a midi controller
,
I confirm that is still happening to me.
have a good Sunday
You've already hijacked this thread with another issue, please don't bring a third one here. Mixing threads will make the forum a mess
Re: "Observing" - directive is not copied
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 5:24 pm
by plugz
giacomo wrote:Hi Plugz, I guess I've to narrowed it, it happens with knobs and sliders too, no matters if they're copied inside or outside a frame, it's related to the virtual console live edit.
Once the show has been recorded and reloaded the issue disappears, so I enclose the start file to reproduce it.
start file:
knob 1 > scene 1
slider 2 > scene 2
button > scene 3
1- in the virtual console copy the frame (just to try it all together, same result by copying just one item)
2- switch to live mode - of course now when you move one control the copied one will follow
3- toggle on console live edit and change the assigned scenes in the copied frame to unused ones
4- toggle off console live edit: now if you move the first knob or slider the copied one is still following
This is now fixed in git.