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Will USB-COM485-PLUS4 work with QLC+ and RPi ?
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 5:28 pm
by chaosben
At first i have to say: thank you very much for this great software. A week ago, we "rocked" a wedding with the support of QLC+.
For future projects i would like to build a dedicated box for controlling all the fixtures.
My idea ist to combine a RPi 2 with an
USB-COM485-PLUS4 and controll it via WLAN and OSC.
The question is: will this config work and is it a reasonable config? Or should i use an more potential PC?
Thanks for thinking about my crude ideas.
Re: Will USB-COM485-PLUS4 work with QLC+ and RPi ?
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 7:38 am
by OddSocks
Sounds like a plan that would work. My one reservation would be the USB-Com4 device, I don't know if QLC will talk to this device and send DMX commands out of it.
Re: Will USB-COM485-PLUS4 work with QLC+ and RPi ?
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:20 pm
by mcallegari
Uhm...not sure it will work.
How will you go from the DIN9 connector to DMX ?
How can a single device expose 4 outputs to QLC+ ? That's surely not integrated in the code.
Re: Will USB-COM485-PLUS4 work with QLC+ and RPi ?
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:25 pm
by chaosben
I would build a adapter from DIN9 to XLR (just connecting D+, D- and Ground).
There is no need for me, to use the 4-Port-Adapter. It was only the result of searching a cheap solution for more then one DMX-universe.
Do you know where to order cheap USB to RS485 FTDI-Boards in Europe or another solution lower then 40€?
Re: Will USB-COM485-PLUS4 work with QLC+ and RPi ?
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:47 pm
by mcallegari
Less than €40...hard to tell.
How many universes do you need to control ?
I am reading the
COM485-PLUS4 datasheet right now and it says:
"Adds four RS-485 serial ports by connecting to a USB 2.0 Hi-Speed interface."
and again (talking about Windows drivers installation)
You will see four additional “USB Serial Port”, followed by a COMn assignment.
And four additional “USB Serial Converter A” ,“USB Serial Converter B” ,“USB Serial Converter C” and
“USB Serial Converter D”.
If I got it right and the FTDI micro exposes 4 serial ports, then maybe there's hope to work with it in QLC+ (maybe even out of the box)
No idea though if the Open DMX protocol will work flawlessy on all 4 outputs. Difficult to say without having the device.
How much does it cost ?
Re: Will USB-COM485-PLUS4 work with QLC+ and RPi ?
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:47 pm
by chaosben
mcallegari wrote:How many universes do you need to control ?
At least i need 2 universes. But 4 would be great.
The USB-COM485-PLUS4
can be bought for 54€ which seems to be fair for getting 4 universes. Am i right?
@Robert: thanks for the hint. Could you explain "A resistor needs soldering across two of the pins" please?
Re: Will USB-COM485-PLUS4 work with QLC+ and RPi ?
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:54 pm
by boxy
I've used 3 of these in the past. I use a small plastic box and a USB cable to tidy things up. A resistor needs soldering across two of the pins:
http://uk.farnell.com/ftdi/usb-rs485-pc ... 0000005184
There's also this which I haven't tried but should work:
http://uk.farnell.com/ftdi/usb-rs485-we ... dp/1740357
Re: Will USB-COM485-PLUS4 work with QLC+ and RPi ?
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 1:03 pm
by mcallegari
Thanks Robert.
The difference with the adapters you shared and the PLUS4 is the number of USB ports used.
I imagine that 3 adapters on 3 USB ports are easier to handle than 1 adapter with 4 outputs on a single USB port.
The USB raw traffic must be devilish.
But now I'm curious about how it would work with QLC+
Re: Will USB-COM485-PLUS4 work with QLC+ and RPi ?
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 4:53 am
by mumbles
what about using/ making the USB DMX controller I posted about making a couple weeks ago. I have one connected to a pi 2 right now. so I know it will work.
I have not tested pi with more than one though. So if you need more than 1 universe theoretically pi 2 should handle up to 4 of these FTDI usb dmx controllers without the need of a powered USB hub.
http://www.instructables.com/id/Pro-USB ... r-For-QLC/
Re: Will USB-COM485-PLUS4 work with QLC+ and RPi ?
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 5:07 am
by chaosben
Thank you.
Maybe the last question: will RPi 2 be able to feed 4 universes?
Re: Will USB-COM485-PLUS4 work with QLC+ and RPi ?
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 5:07 am
by mcallegari
chaosben wrote:Thank you.
Maybe the last question: will RPi 2 be able to feed 4 universes?
Short answer: in theory yes.
Long answer: I have tested 4 universes with 320 channels each (1280 channels total) via ArtNet. It works, but as far as I can tell the RPi is near to its limit when controlling them since the ArtNet plugin runs on a single thread.
In your case it would be different as every universe would run on a dedicated thread (which is better) but the RPi will have to handle the USB traffic.
I think you can only know when you try and, in case, report in this forum if it works or not.
Re: Will USB-COM485-PLUS4 work with QLC+ and RPi ?
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 1:52 pm
by chaosben
OK, thank you very much!