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POLL - Virtual console submasters

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:38 am
by Massimo Callegari
Hello all, one thing QLC+ is missing are submasters, to adjust the level of specific functions/channels during live performances.

After a few discussions in another topic, there are a couple of possible solutions and I would like everyone reading this to share their preference for one of them.

The common ground is that a new mode (after Levels and Playback) will be added to Virtual Console sliders, called "submaster".

**Proposal 1)** Submasters will be bound to channel groups, so in the configuration panel you will have to choose to which groups the submaster will act
***Pros:***
* Always act on channel groups, whether or not a function is running
* There can be more than one submaster over a channel group
***Cons:***
* Channel groups have to be defined carefully before using this
* The slider will act the same not consider any context (e.g. nested frames)


**Proposal 2)** Submasters will act on functions intensity of the current frame. It will be possible to select between "All running functions" and "Manual functions selection"
***Pros:***
* depending on where the slider is placed, it will affect only the desired context (e.g. nedted frames)
* it can act on any QLC+ function supporting the "intensity" attribute, so Scenes, Chasers, EFX, RGB Matrices and Audio
***Cons:***
* it won't control specific channels apart for the one used by a function
* it acts only on intensity channels so any other LTP channel like pan, tilt, macros cannot be controlled

Please give your preference on this. Just say 1 or 2.

Thanks !

POLL - Virtual console submasters

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 9:39 pm
by giacomo
2

POLL - Virtual console submasters

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:44 pm
by Davey Daytona
hummm. 1 has its pros.. depending on what your trying to do . I can see its usefulness in cases where you want a to sync channels together..

but i think 2 is a bit more flexible. If you compare the idea of a sub-master in the context of how a VCA works in audio.. its not that different than in how it would affect lighting. being able to set a number faders or values and give them a master variant or control an HTP factor. like in a VCA your able to select specific functions in a frame ( bank) .. I vote 2

POLL - Virtual console submasters

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 12:49 am
by everythingDaniel
2

POLL - Virtual console submasters

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:27 am
by Connor Faulder
2, also with the ability of submastering sliders in level mode.

POLL - Virtual console submasters

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:58 am
by Michael Clements
2

POLL - Virtual console submasters

Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 5:48 am
by George Qualley
2

POLL - Virtual console submasters

Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 1:31 pm
by René
2

POLL - Virtual console submasters

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 12:10 pm
by Massimo Callegari
OK, thanks to everyone. I guess this poll can be closed now.
I've implemented the functionality as proposal #2.
For now it controls every widget in a frame. I need to figure out which options are worth to be added (for example a custom list of widgets to be controlled)

POLL - Virtual console submasters

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:34 pm
by Stefan Riemens
Great, thanks! Just had a play with it, works great!