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Slider Matrix Sizing

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 7:02 am
by Rhinesel
Is it possible to resize a slider matrix after it is created? I can see adding everything and then wanting to add something to your virtual console and having to change things.

Or in my case right now, adding a bunch of slider matrixes and finding out your about 40 pixels too long.....

Re: Slider Matrix Sizing

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:30 am
by MichelSliepenbeek
Watch these:

[youtube]https://youtu.be/Voi3KinCrzw[/youtube]
[youtube]https://youtu.be/VT_f2wowPAM[/youtube]

Re: Slider Matrix Sizing

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 5:40 pm
by Rhinesel
MichelSliepenbeek wrote: Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:30 am Watch these:

[youtube]https://youtu.be/Voi3KinCrzw[/youtube]
[youtube]https://youtu.be/VT_f2wowPAM[/youtube]
I’ve seen the videos (and watched them both again). They don’t address the question if you can resize a slider matrix once created.

Re: Slider Matrix Sizing

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 5:56 pm
by MichelSliepenbeek
First enlarge the frame. Then resize your sliders one by one. finally resize your Frame.

Click on the frame or slider you want to change the size from.
Now "pick up"the Handle on the Right Bottom Corner.

But if you only created the slider matrix (without adding any values to the sliders) it is easier to delete the matrix and create a new one (now with the size you want).

Re: Slider Matrix Sizing

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 6:09 pm
by Rhinesel
MichelSliepenbeek wrote: Fri Mar 03, 2023 5:56 pm First enlarge the frame. Then resize your sliders one by one. finally resize your Frame.

Click on the frame or slider you want to change the size from.
Now "pick up"the Handle on the Right Bottom Corner.

But if you only created the slider matrix (without adding any values to the sliders) it is easier to delete the matrix and create a new one (now with the size you want).
The issue is that there is no option I see to set it to a certain size (like 50 x 200 pixels) like when you first make it. If I have a bank of 24 sliders I need to try to drag all of them individually to the same size. Was hoping for a quick way to set them all to a certain size like when the matrix was created.

Re: Slider Matrix Sizing

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 6:27 pm
by MichelSliepenbeek
Sorry, there is no quicker way (in QLC 4). :) ;)


Try to imagine how much time my Workspace took. :) ;)
WorkSpace.jpg

Re: Slider Matrix Sizing

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 6:39 pm
by Rhinesel
That looks awesome. Is there a “Show your Virtual Console” thread?

Re: Slider Matrix Sizing

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 7:06 pm
by MichelSliepenbeek
Not specifically (or maybe there is, but then i could not find it).

What you could do is use the advanced search (to reduce your search to Community only) and then go for things like "my workspace", "example" or just ".qxf".

Re: Slider Matrix Sizing

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:56 am
by Yestalgia
Rhinesel wrote: Fri Mar 03, 2023 6:39 pm That looks awesome. Is there a “Show your Virtual Console” thread?
There absolutely should be.

Re: Slider Matrix Sizing

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 11:34 am
by GGGss
MichelSliepenbeek wrote: Fri Mar 03, 2023 6:27 pm Sorry, there is no quicker way (in QLC 4). :) ;)
Ow yes there is - edit your showfile with a text editor... Once you know the structure, changing 24 sliders in size takes, ehhmm, 2 seconds?
Create a backup first - you break the structure of the file, and you break your project.

Re: Slider Matrix Sizing

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 1:42 pm
by MichelSliepenbeek
I tried to do this.
The problem is how to identify the slider that you want to change.

First attempt: i tried to make a match on Technical Keys: in the Showfile every slider has a unique Key (ID9999), but in VC if you go to Widget Properties you cannot find this ID.
Attempt 1 failed.

Second Attempt: now in VC in Widget Properties i changed the Widget Names of some sliders to "Change This 1", "Change This 2", ... "Change This 24".
Now in my text editor i could find the sliders by using Search String "Change This" and i could change the sizes (*1). After saving the showfile i had to reload my workspace in QLC and change the widget names back to their original values.
With atttempt 2 i could make this approach to work, but it took me far more time than if i would just change the sizes in VC.

Third Attempt: i always put a group of sliders in a Frame, mainly because then i can move a group of sliders to another position on the screen in one action, instead of having to move all the sliders separately (or cut&paste them into another Frame).
What i didn't do before however, is give those frames a name. So for this experiment i gave one of my frames a unique name ("Front Spot Slider Widget") and that helped me to locate it in the showfile with my text editor.
Attempt 3 was succesfull (and i have learned why i have to add names to all of my slider frames :) ;) )
This way i can surely make the changes a lot faster, but i still need more time than if i simply change the sizes in VC.

Thank you for the tip, but as i'm still far away from the 2 seconds in which you do it, i guess there must be a better way that i haven't found yet.
Please explain how you do it.

*1. To find out which values i needed to use to change the size, i changed the size of the first slider on beforehand in VC, so that i could Copy Paste those values to the other 23 sliders.

Re: Slider Matrix Sizing

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:08 am
by GGGss
MichelSliepenbeek wrote: Mon Mar 06, 2023 1:42 pm *1. To find out which values i needed to use to change the size, i changed the size of the first slider on beforehand in VC, so that i could Copy Paste those values to the other 23 sliders.
^^ this f.i. - if you group things (which is most practical in any aspect), the mass edit of things gets a lot easier. I'm working on a brand new project for a small theatre, and we started from absolute scratch. The electricians are even pulling new wires as we speak.