Remapping our fixtures to work in parallel with the theater hall fixtures?

[romandesign]

Hi, I have our very low budget rig programmed to sync with our songs (we're a prog rock band called 7times - 7times.ca). I'm a newbie in DMX and QLC+. I have a cheap Chinese USB DMX controller plugged into a Windows laptop and it works quite well. Our system has about 14 fixtures including some movers, but it's weak. We're planning a concert in a theater hall that has PARs and other DMX that are open for use and their rider has all the addresses, spread into 4 universes. No movers there, so I can't really remap our system into theirs directly. But I would love to feed their system (at least one universe that has the PARs) to sync with out PARs so they fill the stage together.

How do I do that?

I think I understand how remapping works, but I would like our portable system working too, at the same time. And even if I use only their PARs on one universe (which I don't have a clear understanding of how to work with universes) - the addresses would overlap, so what do I do?

Here's the available equipment that they have. I'd like at the minimum use their PARs and maybe LED bars without disconnecting ours. I'm not sure how DMX Splitter works and what it does, etc. Maybe I can run 2 USB interfaces at once for 2 universes and remap mine + run one of theirs? Can QLC+ and a PC run 2 different USB-DMX interfaces at once? All advice appreciated!

Control & Dimmers
Dimmer Rack ETC DRd 12-24 1
2.4K Dual Dimmer ETC D20 6
2.4K Dual Relay ETC R20 2
Lightning Console 4-Universes Chamsys MQ40 1
USB-DMX Interface 1xIN – 1xOUT ENTTEC DMX-USB Pro 1
DMX Splitter ENTTEC D-Split Splitter 1
DMX Dimmer/Relay Pack mobile Chauvet DMX-4 Dimmer 1
Lights
LECO 36 degrees ETC S4 Elipsoidals 5
PAR 64 ETC S4 7
Fresnel 650W 2
PAR LED RGBA Chauvet Pro COLORdash Par-Quad 18 6
PAR LED wireless RGBAW+UV Battery Par Can Chauvet Freedom Par Hex-4 6
LED Bar Blizzard Pixel COB Mini 2

[GGGss]

First off ... take a backup (or 2). Once remapping is effectuated; your original file is gone.
Yes, you can run 2 separate universes on 2 interfaces.
A DMX splitter is a physical device, typical only 1 universe, isolating 2 or multiple strings of wire.

It will involve some work to integrate house lights with your show... (I would prefer to remap some of your back lights for the stage and give them the house lights backdrop fixtures address... this is the fastest way)

[romandesign]

That's a good idea. So two or more fixtures with the same address would all react the same then?

[GGGss]

Yes,
I mostly look at their fixture mapping and look for the ones of interest.
Then I map my existing project to this situation and change the addresses of 'my' accessible fixtures.
You won't be able to control their whole rig, but it'll be better than none...

[romandesign]

Yes,
I mostly look at their fixture mapping and look for the ones of interest.
Then I map my existing project to this situation and change the addresses of 'my' accessible fixtures.
You won't be able to control their whole rig, but it'll be better than none...

Makes sense. I was thinking about remapping via cloning my fixtures plus mapping theirs on the second universe via the second USB interface. But your way is simpler: no need for the second universe, just connect last of my fixture to first of theirs (or whatever, they do have a splitter, so that would work too). The only thing is that when I change those addresses, they would overlap my other fixtures, so they all would have to be changed, and 6 of them have jumpers instead of numbers... I'll check if they overlap or not...

BTW is there a way to shift or drag a bunch of clips in the Show? Multi-select somthing? Looks like dragging a box doesn't work, and shift+click or Ctrl+click also doesn't work. I just want to slide things around and also copy and paset verse/chorus parts for the song, but it seems to be impossible. Am I missing anything?

[GGGss]

BTW is there a way to shift or drag a bunch of clips in the Show? Multi-select somthing? Looks like dragging a box doesn't work, and shift+click or Ctrl+click also doesn't work. I just want to slide things around and also copy and paset verse/chorus parts for the song, but it seems to be impossible. Am I missing anything?

I saw your other thread. I personally left the 'show' part of QLC+ because of issues. You can try to edit the project file with a text editor. Take a backup before - if you break the structure, you break the project. By altering the timing intern, you could achieve what you want. But you will have to study the file's structure before changing things...

[romandesign]

BTW is there a way to shift or drag a bunch of clips in the Show? Multi-select somthing? Looks like dragging a box doesn't work, and shift+click or Ctrl+click also doesn't work. I just want to slide things around and also copy and paset verse/chorus parts for the song, but it seems to be impossible. Am I missing anything?

I saw your other thread. I personally left the 'show' part of QLC+ because of issues. You can try to edit the project file with a text editor. Take a backup before - if you break the structure, you break the project. By altering the timing intern, you could achieve what you want. But you will have to study the file's structure before changing things...

That would be difficult because of many items... I would need to do math on all entries. It's faster to move each clip by hand then. What a nightmare...
I don't see other way to program lights to sync with a song, and songs can be started at will on stage. Is there one? Looks like very basic editing functionality is still not there. Too bad.