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ILDA Laser control possible?

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:14 pm
by Gabse
Hello, Last Weekend i had a light&laser-show using QLC4. For controlling the Laser I used a second PC running iShow ILDA Software. I found using different Programs for Light and Laser makes controlling a nightmare. Although it is technically possible to control some ILDA Programs over DMX or even ArtNet, i found using different programs to be a real pain.
Unfortunately there is no program who does ILDA and proper DMX control (not only controlling a few dimmer channels), even in the semiprofessional segment.

I wanted to ask if there are any plans to implement ILDA Laser control into QLC+, Maybe into Version 5 or 6?

There is a Open source Laser backend project over on GitHub, Which maybe could be merged into QLC. Furthermore there is even the Open source ILDA Interface Helios DAC that could work as Interface for that purpose.

In my Eyes a proper ILDA control would make a real Killer feature for QLC+. What do you think about the idea? Is someone else interested too?

Re: ILDA Laser control possible?

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 9:21 am
by Shanness
I'm pretty new to lasers and ILDA etc so apologies if I'm missing something important, but it seems to me that ILDA is for complex reactive pattern mapping etc, and much of the software available for it is of a similar complexity level to qlcplus (i.e. this would be a big, complex new feature?)

I've just received a pretty nice RGB cheap laser from china (AUCD DA-F500), and it's got both ILDA and DMX ports. For playing existing patterns, using pre saved ILD files on the SD card, DMX is fine for controlling it. I can select playlists and patterns. Change the colors, pan, zoom, rotate etc. 23 DMX channels with 4 different and flexible modes. Seems preloading patterns on the lasers SD cards and using DMX commands (not ILDA) is the way to go for QLC control.

ILDA it seems to me is only needed for realtime new patterns (i.e. generative/reactive art etc) or if your laser doesn't have a decent DMX/artnet interface as well? Or perhaps you have a lot of lasers and don't want to deal with the SD cards?

If you google "artnet ilda" there looks like lots of options out there?

Just in case it helps, this is my plan for doing more complex stuff with the laser using ILDA (maybe react to a dancefloor or DJ video feed with laser using ILDA)

I have an ILDA DAC (Helios) on order, but I'm planing on using that from probably TouchDesigner, which seems very supported. And triggering TD from QLCPlus (or vis-versa) is easy (artnet/E1.13/OSC are all fully supported as inputs and outputs in TD).

So, you could output to a universe that TD is listening on, and have it react to your DMX commands and do whatever you want in ILDA. (TD plays nice with most all protocols two way)

https://github.com/tgreiser/laser-juice
https://docs.derivative.ca/Laser_CHOP

Hope this helps..