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Organize fixtures / DMX channels

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 6:12 am
by Mibmusic
Good morning all,

I have a two small questions and I need some kind of help/confirmation. In our show we use 2 Chauvet Geyser P7 fog machines. We now want to add 2 more so I added them without any problem. But now I have the first fixture starting at channel 21, the 2nd at 36 and the new 2 fixtures starting from channel 104 because in between now are some other fixtures. I know it will work but is it common to now change the existing DMX channels to have an organized order?

And the second question I have is about a gap in channels. I noticed that between the 3rd and 4th fixture I have a gap of 5 channels. I read sometimes this is mandatory but how do I know if that is the case? From the documentation? I am thinking about removing the gap too.

(In the youtube video you can see we use the Ayra CB150 (3 in total) and the Chauvet Geyser P7 fog machines which are running along with our backing tracks using QLC+

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRiBvrIiwkk[/youtube]

Re: Organize fixtures / DMX channels

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 6:25 am
by GGGss
If you feel more comfortable with a more structured DMX address system - go ahead - There is no technical reason why this needs to be done.

Gaps: Fixtures build with quality don't require gaps at all. In the 80-ies some primitive fixtures needed a gap to work correct. Gaps were also introduced when a fixture had multiple modes say 9 and 11 channel and the desk wouldn't have to be reprogrammed... this way of working is now replaced with the clone feature (you preprogram your show with very complex fixtures. Once in the venue you clone everything to simpler fixtures without loosing functionality.)

Re: Organize fixtures / DMX channels

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:27 am
by Mibmusic
Ok thx, that helps a lot! And it explains the gap-thing!

I think I am going to study more about that cloning feature. Often we arrive at a venue and we see some cool fixtures (included in QLC+) we could easily connect to our show but we do not have the guts, hahaha.

In theory that should be possible, right?

But again, thanks!

Re: Organize fixtures / DMX channels

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:04 am
by GGGss
Don't get too exited... it IS possible to clone things but my experience learns me that it is sometimes not practical to work with.
Base positions have to be inverted (upside down fixtures, 180° rotated ones, ...)
Colours don't match (all colour scenes have to be changed)
Gobo's are completely off
All timings have to be altered because a cloned head is very fast vs the one you had during preprograming. A simple wave across 8 heads is like 10 mins of work (which you don't have)
You would need tools like the big desks have to clone descent. Script language like: "for fixture x to y alter scenes .. to .. Change value of preset a where color.index is color_red etc "

Re: Organize fixtures / DMX channels

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 7:54 pm
by Mibmusic
Ok understood and thank you! I will study it but keep this in mind. We will see, but I always test the whole show before going live with it.