Hello everybody!
I totally beginner in lighting world, can somebody help.
I have small club and now I upgrade all fixtures and for controlling I choice QLC .
1. I want make XY PAD for 6 moving heads
1) I want make buttons for choice with head, can controll with PAD
(1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. or head combination togther)
2. STROBO CONTROL
My heads have strobo on 6. ch from value 135 to 239 (from slow to fast). How to make virtual panel control button, for that. First swith on strobo mode, then with slider control speed (slider must work from 135 to 239)
I tried to make scene to swith on strobo mode (move heads to the at the required position, and set slider in start position (135), in virtul contrl panel I make button (for swith On/Off (when deselect strobo mode, software set to minimum onlly dimmer ch, tilt, pan, and mode ch can not move to miimum value:(
Best regards
Janis
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GGGss
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It is not possible to select which heads are under focus...Johnnyx wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:08 pm Hello everybody!
I totally beginner in lighting world, can somebody help.
I have small club and now I upgrade all fixtures and for controlling I choice QLC .
1. I want make XY PAD for 6 moving heads
1) I want make buttons for choice with head, can controll with PAD
(1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. or head combination togther)
You better prepare relative EFX's for your heads and bind them to buttons on your VC (inside a solo frame f.i.).
Frame with slider inside - slider is limited from 135 to 239Johnnyx wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:08 pm 2. STROBO CONTROL
My heads have strobo on 6. ch from value 135 to 239 (from slow to fast). How to make virtual panel control button, for that. First swith on strobo mode, then with slider control speed (slider must work from 135 to 239)
I tried to make scene to swith on strobo mode (move heads to the at the required position, and set slider in start position (135), in virtul contrl panel I make button (for swith On/Off (when deselect strobo mode, software set to minimum onlly dimmer ch, tilt, pan, and mode ch can not move to miimum value:(
en- disable frame if you want strobing or not.
and my advise: don't combine things too much... master dimmer is a group, positions are another group, bogo's EFX etc other groups. So that you can have much more control of what is going on.
I suspect the fixture profile to be faulty if the minimum value cannot be reached (HTP vs LTP) if there is yet another function running...
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that I invented it myself, but is one problemGGGss wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:03 am 2. STROBO CONTROL
My heads have strobo on 6. ch from value 135 to 239 (from slow to fast). How to make virtual panel control button, for that. First swith on strobo mode, then with slider control speed (slider must work from 135 to 239)
I tried to make scene to swith on strobo mode (move heads to the at the required position, and set slider in start position (135), in virtul contrl panel I make button (for swith On/Off (when deselect strobo mode, software set to minimum onlly dimmer ch, tilt, pan, and mode ch can not move to miimum value:(
Frame with slider inside - slider is limited from 135 to 239
en- disable frame if you want strobing or not.
and my advise: don't combine things too much... master dimmer is a group, positions are another group, bogo's EFX etc other groups. So that you can have much more control of what is going on.
I suspect the fixture profile to be faulty if the minimum value cannot be reached (HTP vs LTP) if there is yet another function running...
when I create slider in solo frame, then when I do't need strobe effect, slider stay in those possition what is in solo frame.
And why when I unselect button (button with attached scene (PAN position, TILT position, Color Dimmer), Color Slider goes to min value, but TILT and PAN sliders leave on scene seted value and doesn't bring back to min value
Next, I creat scenes with auto modes (AutoMode 1, autoMode 2, AutoMode 3, gouped under folder AutoMode), then I creat solo freme with 3 buttons (for different modes), now when I swith strobo mode on (Scene - PAN (value 30), TILT (value 80), COLOR dimmer white (value 255)) strobo scene can't run. WHY ?
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Is possible create strobo scene with speed depend from audio (external input signal)GGGss wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:03 am
2. STROBO CONTROL
My heads have strobo on 6. ch from value 135 to 239 (from slow to fast). How to make virtual panel control button, for that. First swith on strobo mode, then with slider control speed (slider must work from 135 to 239)
I tried to make scene to swith on strobo mode (move heads to the at the required position, and set slider in start position (135), in virtul contrl panel I make button (for swith On/Off (when deselect strobo mode, software set to minimum onlly dimmer ch, tilt, pan, and mode ch can not move to miimum value:(
Frame with slider inside - slider is limited from 135 to 239
en- disable frame if you want strobing or not.
and my advise: don't combine things too much... master dimmer is a group, positions are another group, bogo's EFX etc other groups. So that you can have much more control of what is going on.
I suspect the fixture profile to be faulty if the minimum value cannot be reached (HTP vs LTP) if there is yet another function running...
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Please Janis, go slow ...
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* You want to say that these automodes are inside a solo frame? And if you want to use the strobo mode - they won't fire? As I told you before don't do things like that. Strobe is an effect to be used on top of other things. So your strobe cue should only contain shutter information - unless your fixture profile is faulty. Without looking into your project I assume that COLOR dimmer white (255) is overriding the needed value between 135 and 139 for strobing.
It __may__ work for one fixture-type but don't put too much work in it. You'd better try to have a random like looking strobe solution...
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Is to be expected and default behaviour -> pan / tilt = LTP; Color dimmer etc = HTP -> As long as you don't specific send a new value to pan / tilt they won't do anything. So unselecting a scene won't change pan / tilt (luckily)."And why when I unselect button (button with attached scene (PAN position, TILT position, Color Dimmer), Color Slider goes to min value, but TILT and PAN sliders leave on scene seted value and doesn't bring back to min value"
* I have no idea what is inside your auto modes ... please upload your project"Next, I creat scenes with auto modes (AutoMode 1, autoMode 2, AutoMode 3, gouped under folder AutoMode), then I creat solo freme with 3 buttons (for different modes), now when I swith strobo mode on (Scene - PAN (value 30), TILT (value 80), COLOR dimmer white (value 255)) strobo scene can't run. WHY ?"
* You want to say that these automodes are inside a solo frame? And if you want to use the strobo mode - they won't fire? As I told you before don't do things like that. Strobe is an effect to be used on top of other things. So your strobe cue should only contain shutter information - unless your fixture profile is faulty. Without looking into your project I assume that COLOR dimmer white (255) is overriding the needed value between 135 and 139 for strobing.
NO - you will not be able to get a BPM value out of the audio widget. We all tried once - we all failed"Is possible create strobo scene with speed depend from audio (external input signal)"
It __may__ work for one fixture-type but don't put too much work in it. You'd better try to have a random like looking strobe solution...All electric machines work on smoke... when the smoke escapes... they don't work anymore
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Hello!
thank You, about your help ( buttom is link where I upload my project file, fixture profiles, manula pages with DMX ch table)
Ok from beginning I'm a beginner in lighting world, I have big experience on djing and in pc world with different softwares.
Now I upgrading my club, (it is small). After collecting lot of information, I choice way, where Fixtures control vith PC.
I bought UKing - 18 Beam moving heads, 6 spot moving heads, 2 effects (spider), 3 PinSpot lights (for mirror ball), from old stuff, I leave Adj Nucleus LED effect, 4 pars, connected to martin 4ch dimmer pack and 8 ch switch box for other fixtures (like a UV leds, etc).
For Beam Moving head, PinSpot and Spider effect, Fixture profile I created by self.
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AqRsBak5Zpm0pAiFkAt ... u?e=LHr26g
thank You, about your help ( buttom is link where I upload my project file, fixture profiles, manula pages with DMX ch table)
Ok from beginning I'm a beginner in lighting world, I have big experience on djing and in pc world with different softwares.
Now I upgrading my club, (it is small). After collecting lot of information, I choice way, where Fixtures control vith PC.
I bought UKing - 18 Beam moving heads, 6 spot moving heads, 2 effects (spider), 3 PinSpot lights (for mirror ball), from old stuff, I leave Adj Nucleus LED effect, 4 pars, connected to martin 4ch dimmer pack and 8 ch switch box for other fixtures (like a UV leds, etc).
For Beam Moving head, PinSpot and Spider effect, Fixture profile I created by self.
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AqRsBak5Zpm0pAiFkAt ... u?e=LHr26g
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Eehmm...
Beam moving head has 9ch and 14ch mode - in your fixture definition there is a 9ch and 11ch mode.
And a quick look at the content of the channels shows me it's completely wrong... [edit] I can be wrong since you have multiple movers in your project - I don't know which is which??? [/edit]
Mini-spider fixture profile: It's better to work with heads since it's a multi head fixture -> https://www.qlcplus.org/docs/html_en_EN ... .html#Head and https://www.qlcplus.org/docs/html_en_EN/modeeditor.html (if you want to start working with RGB matrixes etc)
Pinspot: fixture profile : It's better to change ch.1 to intensity
And your strobe problem: I can't see what is going on. What values are needed to get the strobing... 135+ for sure ... but I'm betting that other channels have to have some info also... (like intensity, color, ...) Try this in simple mode and use those values in your scenes.
Go step by step - one thing at the time.
Beam moving head has 9ch and 14ch mode - in your fixture definition there is a 9ch and 11ch mode.
And a quick look at the content of the channels shows me it's completely wrong... [edit] I can be wrong since you have multiple movers in your project - I don't know which is which??? [/edit]
Mini-spider fixture profile: It's better to work with heads since it's a multi head fixture -> https://www.qlcplus.org/docs/html_en_EN ... .html#Head and https://www.qlcplus.org/docs/html_en_EN/modeeditor.html (if you want to start working with RGB matrixes etc)
Pinspot: fixture profile : It's better to change ch.1 to intensity
And your strobe problem: I can't see what is going on. What values are needed to get the strobing... 135+ for sure ... but I'm betting that other channels have to have some info also... (like intensity, color, ...) Try this in simple mode and use those values in your scenes.
Go step by step - one thing at the time.
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In my project is 2 differnet moving headsGGGss wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:44 am
Beam moving head has 9ch and 14ch mode - in your fixture definition there is a 9ch and 11ch mode.
And a quick look at the content of the channels shows me it's completely wrong... [edit] I can be wrong since you have multiple movers in your project - I don't know which is which??? [/edit]
one type - beam moving head (9ch and 14ch)
second type - spot moving head with color and patern gobo (9ch and 11ch)
in my project:
Beam moving head called: BMH-##
Spot moving head called : SMH-##
->And a quick look at the content of the channels shows me it's completely wrong...
now I can not understand what is wrong ????
best regards
Janis
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Strobo scene now is freeze on time, I need first created all basic thingsGGGss wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:44 am intensity
And your strobe problem: I can't see what is going on. What values are needed to get the strobing... 135+ for sure ... but I'm betting that other channels have to have some info also... (like intensity, color, ...) Try this in simple mode and use those values in your scenes.