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Basic question: adding chaser to solo frame

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:36 pm
by richbass
Hi All,

Sorry for the basic question (totally newbie)
I'm prob just being blind, but can't figure this out

I have all my functions in a top level solo frame, because I only ever want one function running at a time.
I have a collection of scenes and animations as buttons in this solo frame. I can select directly by mouse or midi. All works fine and as expected; only one triggering at once.

I now want to add a chaser that when selected disables any active function (including another chaser), runs automatically, and is disabled if I select another function.
How do I do this?

I've tried to add a chaser as a button, as a cue list, within a solo frame within this top level solo frame, in a second top level solo frame.
Nothing works.
Seems to always trigger the first scene, but then not run automatically.

If I go to the function editor the chaser runs fine.

(I'm sure this is something obvious, and I'm just being blind or an idiot)

file attached if that helps

Re: Basic question: adding chaser to solo frame

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 7:50 pm
by richbass
So, think I've figured out that it needs to be a sequence to do what I want.
I'm getting there!!!

Re: Basic question: adding chaser to solo frame

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 4:23 am
by mlohrey
Hi

Your issue is due to the fact that you have scenes in your chaser that are also attached to buttons in the same solo frame.

You may be interested in this discussion of the same problem: viewtopic.php?f=33&t=11937

Ultimately, if you create a script to run the chaser and attach it to the button, it will work. Otherwise avoid referencing scenes you have in the same solo frame.

Cheers

Mark

Re: Basic question: adding chaser to solo frame

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:43 pm
by richbass
That’s great. Thanks Mark. I’ll have another crack πŸ‘πŸ»

Re: Basic question: adding chaser to solo frame

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:22 am
by GGGss
Or you could fire your sequence / chaser by using feedback channels.

The chase is outside of the solo frame...
In the solo frame you assign a button which sets a virtual dimmer in a feedback universe.
Assign chase start with this feedback signal. (just make sure that the first step in your chase is to reassign a 255 value to the virtual dimmer and if it should stop automatically then you have to add a '0' value to the virtual dimmer. (This stops and resets the chaser virtual feedback dimmer)
Only question remains: after you ran your chaser ... what next? (We just resetted everything you could add a step to your chase choosing a cue or scene identical of one in the solo frame.

You will love feedback possibilities once you get the hang of it

Re: Basic question: adding chaser to solo frame

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 2:26 pm
by richbass
Thanks GGGss

Feedback isn’t something I’ve even started using yet!
I’ll start having a play, but I may be back here with more questions!!!

Re: Basic question: adding chaser to solo frame

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:20 am
by richbass
GGGss wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:22 am You will love feedback possibilities once you get the hang of it
Hey GGGss
I think I may need to use feedback for something else (sharing an input across two universes).
Do you know of a good how to for using feedback?

Re: Basic question: adding chaser to solo frame

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:19 am
by GGGss
Feedback: holding your guitar close enough to your speaker? Kidding... I don't have to explain that do I?

Teach yourself by trying following:

Create new project
have 1 generic dimmer in universe 1 (is your hardware output universe)
create a generic dimmer in universe 2 (Apply feedback1 in and output)

asign 2 faders to your VC
Fader 1
assign level control to fader 1 (generic dimmer in universe 1)
* Select universe 2 channel 1

Properties of fader 2:
Select 'Catch up with external control ..."
* Press Choose-button and select 2 Loopback 1
* double click here to enter value
* enter 1

* select Level control
* select universe 1 dimmer 1

go operate.
Change slider 1 -> you will notice slider 2 to follow.

In addition:
create a generic dimmer#2 in universe 1.
Add a third slider onto VC
Assign this slider to level mode
adjust so that it 'listens' to feedback channel 1 (the same as before)

Go operate and bewonder feedback possibilities ;-)
1 master slider operating 2 slave channels...

Re: Basic question: adding chaser to solo frame

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:04 pm
by hypernurd
Hey GGGss,

This is 'Gold'. Ever thought of doing a series of 'How To's' to show noobies the tips and tricks of lighting control? QLC+ is excellent but being a blank canvas means the learning curve is steep - especially for this of us with zero experience of previous systems. I have no idea of the order to create a console, the relationships between the various functions and how to make the system perform what would seem obvious tasks but appear to be anything but.

Just a thought....

Re: Basic question: adding chaser to solo frame

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:38 pm
by mcallegari
https://www.qlcplus.org/tutorials.html
There are something like 170 pages of documentation and 3 hours of video tutorials on YouTube. A link named "tutorials" can be found in the QLC+ website.

Problem is that every user here wants a mind-reading tutorial to teach him what he has in mind.

Re: Basic question: adding chaser to solo frame

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:21 pm
by hypernurd
mcallegari wrote: ↑Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:38 pm https://www.qlcplus.org/tutorials.html
There are something like 170 pages of documentation and 3 hours of video tutorials on YouTube. A link named "tutorials" can be found in the QLC+ website.

Problem is that every user here wants a mind-reading tutorial to teach him what he has in mind.
Hi Massimo,

First off can I congratulate you and your coding colleagues on what you have achieved with QLC+. It really is a fantastic bit of software and you should be very proud of it. I can't wait for v5 to reach the light of day - the alpha previews look like you've taken a big leap forward.

I have read the documentation and watched all of your detailed tutorials on the fundamentals of QLC+. They provide me and I imagine countless others a decent foundation to work from but they are principally concerned with learning the concepts rather than practical application to a real-world environment. My problem is that with so many ways of configuring the VC and functions it is hard for a noob to know whether the path they are taking is solid or may end them up with issues as they develop their environment.

The big one for me is understanding (and working with) the differences between the 'live' aspects of the VC/Simple Desk 'v' setting up chasers/sequences/scripts and matricees for a 'show' delivery. Not having any previous experience of lighting design or concepts its taking a while to understand why one would do certain things a certain way.

However, although the learning curve is steep, it is engaging and hugely fun. Maybe one day I will have a firm enough grasp to create some tutorial content of my own - no doubt having made all the mistakes in the process :)

Best wishes,

Hypernurd

Re: Basic question: adding chaser to solo frame

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:54 am
by richbass
GGGss wrote: ↑Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:19 am Feedback: holding your guitar close enough to your speaker? Kidding... I don't have to explain that do I?
Definitely not πŸ˜†
Love me a bit of feedback

Thanks heaps for this. I’m with hypernurd that, even having all the fab tutorials and extensive manual, having real world examples to work through are invaluable.

Re: Basic question: adding chaser to solo frame

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:01 am
by Ham
richbass wrote: ↑Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:54 am
GGGss wrote: ↑Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:19 am Feedback: holding your guitar close enough to your speaker? Kidding... I don't have to explain that do I?
Definitely not πŸ˜†
Love me a bit of feedback

Thanks heaps for this. I’m with hypernurd that, even having all the fab tutorials and extensive manual, having real world examples to work through are invaluable.
I think this is one of the real values forums provide. The people who have made the mistakes share their experience and maybe save someone else a bit of grief. Of course, it really helps you to learn if you make the mistake yourself in an embarrassing situation.

Ham

Re: Basic question: adding chaser to solo frame

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:24 am
by richbass
Ham wrote: ↑Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:01 am Of course, it really helps you to learn if you make the mistake yourself in an embarrassing situation.

Ham
πŸ˜†πŸ‘πŸ» Absolutely!!