CHASER INSIDE A SOLO WIDGET

Ask a generic question about the usage of QLC+, not related to a particular operating system
Post Reply
Eddie
Posts: 23
Joined: Fri Jul 24, 2020 1:02 am
Real Name: Nahuel

Hello to all. I have a question. I placed a button that fires a chaser in loop mode inside a solo frame, but when I run the chaser it wont stop when I press another
button inside the same solo frame. What am I doing wrong ? Thanks to all
prophy17
Posts: 121
Joined: Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:24 pm
Real Name: Vladimir

Excuse me. But Are you sure that it's a solo (red) frame?
If you are sure, that it's a solo (red) frame, maybe you have cut and pasted the buttons from another place to this solo frame. And if so... I think - You should make new buttons inside your solo frame and connect them with your functions. Excuse me one more time, if I am not right. Best regards.
User avatar
GGGss
Posts: 3052
Joined: Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:15 pm
Location: Belgium
Real Name: Fredje Gallon

Easy way to check whether a button is inside a frame: grab the frame's border and move. If the button moves within, you are fine.

... and you used some Loopback Magic for the button to fire the chaser?
All electric machines work on smoke... when the smoke escapes... they don't work anymore
prophy17
Posts: 121
Joined: Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:24 pm
Real Name: Vladimir

Ooo . If you have said about some Loopback Magic, Dear GGGss, is there any detailed instruction for it? For example, I don't understand how to set the channels in the Loopback profile for the sliders from some universal, if I want to connect them with the widgets from another universal by Loopback function.
User avatar
GGGss
Posts: 3052
Joined: Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:15 pm
Location: Belgium
Real Name: Fredje Gallon

prophy17 wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 3:41 pm Ooo . If you have said about some Loopback Magic, Dear GGGss, is there any detailed instruction for it? For example, I don't understand how to set the channels in the Loopback profile for the sliders from some universal, if I want to connect them with the widgets from another universal by Loopback function.
Vlad,
There are tad forum posts dealing with the Loopback Magic ;-)
All electric machines work on smoke... when the smoke escapes... they don't work anymore
prophy17
Posts: 121
Joined: Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:24 pm
Real Name: Vladimir

You are right. Exactly, there are only tad forum posts dealing with the Loopback, but not any detailed instruction. And I have written about that fact.
User avatar
GGGss
Posts: 3052
Joined: Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:15 pm
Location: Belgium
Real Name: Fredje Gallon

You know that almost every control on the VC can be controlled by an external signal right?
Well, this external signal can also be a channel from a loopback universe.
Create a dimmer in the loopback universe and create a scene with something inside. Attach this channel as the input for the control on the VC. If you fire the scene, the value of the channel in loopback will change, hence the change will be detected and the bound VC control will fire also.

Identical to a slider.
Create a channel in loopback universe.
Put a slider1 on your VC. Put a slider2 on your VC.
Set slider1 in level mode and select the dimmer in the loopback universe.
Use this channel as the external input of slider2. (It might be that slider2 needs a dummy scene to work)
Go into produce mode. Touch slider1 .... Slider2 will follow the value of slider1.
The possibilities are endless. Imagine limiting the value, imagine use channel modifiers, imagine inversing values ...

edit: the forum gives me 63 hits on the "Loopback Magic" search string...
All electric machines work on smoke... when the smoke escapes... they don't work anymore
prophy17
Posts: 121
Joined: Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:24 pm
Real Name: Vladimir

"edit: the forum gives me 63 hits on the "Loopback Magic" search string."
Me too)), but it's not a detailed instruction. That's I have written about. But Thanks for your answer.
MichelSliepenbeek
Posts: 717
Joined: Wed Feb 08, 2023 10:24 am
Location: Nederland
Real Name: Michel Sliepenbeek

Just an easy example to get you started.

Place the QXW workfile in your QlC+ library and place the QXI InputProfile file in your local library (C:\users\"Your Name"\QLC+\Inputprofiles).


In this example Universe 1 is used for regular fixtures and a separate Universe 3 is used for LoopBack Functions/Fixtures (it is important always to use a separate Universe for Loopbacks).
On the Inputs/Outputs Tab Loopback 1 is set as Input for Universe 1 and is also set as Output for Universe 3.
For universe 3 the Inputprofile is selected.

In Universe 1 there are 2 RGB Generic Wash Fixtures.
In Universe 3 there are 2 generic dimmers: the DMX channels should match with the Channel numbers in the Input Profile, so channel 1 is defined as Slider and channel 2 as Button.

On the Virtual Console you see a multi page Frame.
Furthermore you'll find a Loopback Slider (that controls the sliders in the multi page frame) and a Button that changes the page of the frame.

You should notice that :
the Loopback Slider is in level Mode and Linked to DMX channel 1 in Universe 3.
the sliders in the multipage frame are set to receive External Input from Loopback 1, channel 1.

the button runs a Sequence (on DMX channel 2 in Universe 3)
the multi page frame receives External Input for Next Page from Loopback 1 channel 2.

Furthermore you should notice that one loopback channel can be used as External Input for more than 1 Function.
In the same way you can add more channels in one sequence (to scroll several multi page frames with 1 button).
Finally you are not restricted to Loopback 1 (2, 3, and 4 are also available).

Feel free to add more channels to universe 3 and don't forget to also add those channels (with the same number) to your inputprofile.
Attachments
Loopback Easy Example.qxw
(11.17 KiB) Downloaded 99 times
Loopback-EasyExample.qxi
(501 Bytes) Downloaded 99 times
Last edited by MichelSliepenbeek on Wed May 10, 2023 11:58 pm, edited 1 time in total.
A QLC Workspace is like a Bob Ross painting: "it's your world, you can create whatever you want!"
prophy17
Posts: 121
Joined: Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:24 pm
Real Name: Vladimir

Thank you very much, Dear Michel.
User avatar
GGGss
Posts: 3052
Joined: Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:15 pm
Location: Belgium
Real Name: Fredje Gallon

Michel,
Misschien een leuke om hier een afzonderlijk post van te maken in community of zo?

Maybe a good idea to create a separate thread with your example.
All electric machines work on smoke... when the smoke escapes... they don't work anymore
prophy17
Posts: 121
Joined: Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:24 pm
Real Name: Vladimir

I am agree with Mr GGGss - I think it's a good idea. I have created some new topic "Loopback. What is it for?" Maybe there?
MichelSliepenbeek
Posts: 717
Joined: Wed Feb 08, 2023 10:24 am
Location: Nederland
Real Name: Michel Sliepenbeek

I did spent some time creating an example, but after nearly one day the status is still "Not Downloaded Yet". :? :x
I'm in doubt if it's worth putting more effort in it.

In februari i created another example of how i use Loopback viewtopic.php?p=67586#p67586.
Also not very succesfull (downloaded 8 times in 4 months). :P :idea:


By the way, there is a video on youtube explaining Loopback https://youtu.be/SjgdwvK-J6w.
Need to warn on beforehand that it is in German and about 7 years old (release 4.8.4).
A QLC Workspace is like a Bob Ross painting: "it's your world, you can create whatever you want!"
prophy17
Posts: 121
Joined: Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:24 pm
Real Name: Vladimir

I have downloaded your files - why there are no downloading? Great thanks for your job. Best regards
Post Reply