Loopback Magic

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tricot
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Hi friends, how to do one button with flash function with times of fade in and fade out ? to have more sensitivity
(Is not a toogle on - off)
Thanks
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Flash does what it means: Flashing without time / fades / ...
You will have to work around: by f.i. loopback Magic and a chaser with a zero-cue. With flash you advance the chaser and this will respect timings set.

[edit 2022/07/07: with the latest version 4.12.5 a flash scene __with__ a fade-out is now possible. See the release notes: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=15634
This work-around is no longer necessary.]
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tricot
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Thanks for the response
Sorry but I didn´t understand...
Loopack magic ? an a cuelist with a chaser that with has one cue with 0% ?
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See attached demonstration file - as simple as possible, flash one dimmer channel with a duration of 100 ms then fade out 300 ms.
One shot per loopback button press (the button is set to flash mode so it's immediately able to trigger again).
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Could the OP @tricot change the title of this thread to "Flash button with fade" please? It will help future searches by users.
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tricot
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Could you help me to configure the loopback input ? i dont understan how can i do
thanks
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Santiago,

Depends on what you want to achieve.
Example: I want one VC button to control 3 VC buttons (for whatever reason)
We create a separate universe in the input/output tab and select loopback. Select Input & Output.
Now we create a dimmer in the loopback universe.
We create a scene with that dimmer inside and a value of 255.
Now we create 1 + 3 buttons on the VC
In button 1 we bind it to the scene we just created.
We now go into operate-mode.
With the DMX-monitor we can verify that in the universe we defined the loopback1 channel, the value changes from 0 to 255 when we press the VC button #1
Switch back to design-mode
Create a (dummy) scene in the real output universe.
In the button#2 #3 and #4 properties, bind these to the dummy scene. We also set the External input to the loopback channel. Select Choose-button, open the universe where you arranged the loopback in, and double click inside the 'double click here'-field.
Enter the channel of the loopback dimmer (eg 1)
Go into produce-mode and now button#1 controls #2 #3 and #4.
You will notice that you have to click twice on button#1 for 2, 3 and 4 to disable again. Works as designed: you need a rising-edge to trigger things.

There are ways to change this, but this would be, again, depending on what you want to achieve...
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tricot
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Great, I got it !
Thank you very much GGGss!
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Santiago
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hey all , i have yet to fiddle with loop back ive just been researching about it.. my goal is to activate a chase button in my VC and i want to be able to adjust the speed of when each scene is played in loop mode.... do i need to fiddle around with "loopback magic" ? to do this:? i read a post somewhere where you are able to just add a fader to that chase button to adjust its speed in playback mode of course. thanks!
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Ledorian wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2023 11:13 pm hey all , i have yet to fiddle with loop back ive just been researching about it.. my goal is to activate a chase button in my VC and i want to be able to adjust the speed of when each scene is played in loop mode.... do i need to fiddle around with "loopback magic" ? to do this:? i read a post somewhere where you are able to just add a fader to that chase button to adjust its speed in playback mode of course. thanks!
In your case there is a easier way: use the Speed Dial widget. You can assign the 'hold' time of your chaser in the widget. I you want to use a slider to change the tempo, you'll indeed need some loopback magic. Create a dimmer channel in a Loopback universe and set the slider in level mode (and assign to the dimmer channel). Now use this signal as an external input to the Speed Dial Widget. Tip: set a low and high limit on the slider.
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