How to trigger a Collection in a Show Track?

[romandesign]

I'm programming a light show for my band called 7Times. I have a complicated Virtual Console to control everything, but all songs are programmed in Shows that I trigger from my midi controller at the start of every song.

Each Show is a song that has a reference audio track (normally muted, used for programming) and I have Collections for different lighting setups for Verses, Choruses and Solos. What is the best way to trigger those Collections on a Show tracks? I need to trigger a Verse collection, and just just let it sit until the Chorus, for example. Then go to Verse, Chorus, Solo, Chorus at certain times in the song.

I know you can't put a Collection on a Show track. So I have put all Collections in Chasers, and set Hold to "infinite". And I put those Chasers into Show tracks. That caused QLC+ to freeze when clicking on Shows tab. I solved the freezing by replacing 4294967294 in XML to a lower nuymber of 6000000, but it's still very inconvenient because each time a specific song verse Collection is triggered, I have to create a copy of its Chaser and adjust hold time to precise time of the verse. I wish I could just trigger a Collection at certain times, without multiple copies and time adjustments needed. Any ideas?

I attached images of how the console and a show looks. I appreciate any advice.

[GGGss]

You could fire a scene inside the show part. This scene is a channel inside a loopback universe and this triggers a button on your VC that fires the collection.
Depending on the number of collections, this means quite some extra work but it should work out fine.
You could also try to use the dump DMX function and 'copy' all that is running into 1 scene and use that one in your shows...

[romandesign]

Thank you, that sounds like an interesting idea. I got to weigh how much extra work this would create though. If I understand a concept of Loopback correctly, this would mean creating a Loopback universe, creating channels for each Live Console button assigned to Collection, then creating a faders (?) for every such channel and a scene for every such fader, so it can be triggered in a Show. Maybe it's the same amount of work as just adjusting timing for 5 copies of Chasers containing Collections for every song.