Building a MIDI Template

[SpiralBlue]

I'm looking for documentation on how to take a MIDI table for a lighting controller (we'll say the Chauvet Stage 50) to be able to use all the faders and such with QLC+. I'm using an APC 40 mkII now, but would like a bit more fader options and this seems like it should be simple if I have the MIDI table from the manufacturer. Not sure where to start.
Thanks in advance.

[janosvitok]

Start here:
- https://www.qlcplus.org/docs/html_en_EN ... files.html (general info on input profiles)
- https://www.qlcplus.org/docs/html_en_EN/midiplugin.html (details for MIDI devices)

What do you want to achieve?

Note that some messages are not supported (sysex, nrpn). Only those listed are recognized.
Note also the multichannel mapping (if device transmits data on multiple channels, you have to enable it in input settings -- select channel "1-16" and
4096 is added to the message numbers for each additional channel. channel 2 - +4096, channel 3: +8192, etc.)

Jano

[SpiralBlue]

Thanks. So the profile editor would be the place to map the MIDI table. I must have missed that reading those pages already.

I had to use the 0-16 channels for my APC 40 mkII. I already figured that one out. Lol.

I believe the Stage 50 runs on a single channel and uses the sensitivity range for the note as fader position. Their table is a bit generic but most devices I’ve seen seem to start about note 70-x for the faders and use the related note sensitivity (0-127 unfortunately less granular than 0-255).

Table is in this document: https://www.chauvetdj.com/wp-content/up ... v11_WO.pdf

[janosvitok]

Here you can find a list of already supported devices (I'm not sure how up to date it is): https://www.qlcplus.org/docs/html_en_EN ... vices.html
Here are the source files: https://github.com/mcallegari/qlcplus/t ... utprofiles (they are also bundled to installation)

Showtec showmaster 24 seems like very similar device, the 48 even more so.
You may start with that and work from there.

[SpiralBlue]

Meh, my idea to rule the world with MIDI might have just found some limitations. You can only have one MIDI device connected up.

Guess I'm glad I figured this out before investing in another controller. Think I may go with a touchscreen laptop.

[janosvitok]

Not really.

You have to add new universe in QLC+, and connect the other controller to it.
BTW. I suggest that you create separate universe for each controller and separate for each output (i.e. don't mix control and DMX in one universe) UNLESS you have special reason to mix them.

[SpiralBlue]

Ok...I guess to add to the question. If I had a second MIDI controller along side the APC 40 mkII, could I bring it in through Universe 2 and still run sliders in Universe 1. Looking to add more outboard control, that or I'm going to upgrade to a touchscreen laptop I think.

[edogawa]

Yes - just add a new universe, assign your second controller and it will be able to control any virtual console element, no matter what universe that sends output to.

[GGGss]

or I'm going to upgrade to a touchscreen laptop I think.

In my experience, I like physical faders more than being able to touch things. Unless it is a sturdy mounted touchscreen, false (unwanted or unattended) touch signals sometimes ruin your show.
I'd suggest you find a BFC2000 with motorised faders.

[SpiralBlue]

Yes - just add a new universe, assign your second controller and it will be able to control any virtual console element, no matter what universe that sends output to.

Thanks. I’d hate to spend the money and find out it doesn’t.

I guess I’ll be looking at 3 universes then if I add a Logitech joystick to the mix.

[SpiralBlue]

or I'm going to upgrade to a touchscreen laptop I think.

In my experience, I like physical faders more than being able to touch things. Unless it is a sturdy mounted touchscreen, false (unwanted or unattended) touch signals sometimes ruin your show.
I'd suggest you find a BFC2000 with motorised faders.

Looks like I’d need the X-Touch or buy used. Is the MIDI profile the same?

I’m just picturing the faders moving in a RGB matrix or chase scene jumping all over. Lol

[GGGss]

Looks like I’d need the X-Touch or buy used. Is the MIDI profile the same?

I’m just picturing the faders moving in a RGB matrix or chase scene jumping all over. Lol

No, the midi profile surely isn't the same.

I’m just picturing the faders moving in a RGB matrix or chase scene jumping all over. Lol

I wouldn't suggest you do that. Except for a gimmick, It has no practical use.
Motorized faders come to life when you use multiple pages of controls f.i.