[QLC+ 5] Possible function that would help to prepare show more quickly ..

[andres robles]

Hello everyone, it occurs to me that it would be great, that in the part where scenes are created (2D or 3D view) there would be a button to assign the scene to a peripheral fader or a keyboard button, just like in CV when you edit a button or fader, a button (automatically detect) I do not know if I explain myself because my English domain depends on Google .... the idea is that it resembles the typical lighting tables that we all find in theaters or sound companies and we all know them ....., quick example with avolites, select fixtures, create the scene, memory button, and the fader ... example hydra scan, call fixtures (spot 1 thru 4) create escene, and memory 1 rec, memory 1 load this fader .... ect ... In qlc it could be very practical to be able to assign a scene to a fader from the moment of its creation, without having to go through CV, I think a function so would accelerate the process of creating a show ... I attach a photo where I think this function could be Detect universe of entry or direct access key to try to be more explicit ....

[mcallegari]

Moved to feature request.

Andres, thanks a lot for your numerous feedbacks on QLC+ 5. However it is very difficult for me to fully understand your posts.
Maybe Google translator is not as good as they want us to believe

Would you be so kind to elaborate your idea ?

[andres robles]

Hi Massimo, I will try to expose the idea in a more graphic way by editing with gimp the photographs, google translator is a horror, the translation of what I wrote in Spanish translate it back from English into Spanish and nothing has to do with what I try to explain, until It's hard for me to understand the translation ..... Greetings

[andres robles]

hi again, since google does not understand me as I would like, try to modify an image capture adding the function that I think would be interesting to have a more efficient workflow with QLC5, (the texts of the image are without the help of google, sorry if there are misspelled words, consider that it is southern spaningles) and yes, the gimp edition was quick and I am very ugly, but I think it helps to understand the idea that is its end .... Thanks for the attention and for the development of this wonderful software, I'm going to a holy week event ... Health

[mcallegari]

The idea is good, but it doesn't cope well with a complex virtual console.
I mean, it might work on an empty/simple VC, but when you start having nested frames, pages and so on, QLC+ cannot read your mind and decide for you what is the most appropriate place in your VC where to position a new widget.
It might end up being a waste of time rather than being helpful.

Also, I'd like to keep the DMX dump functionality as simpler as possible, so even during a show you don't need to spend more than a few seconds on it.

What I propose though, is to bring up an input selection popup whenever a new widget is placed on the VC.
In this way you can decide the position of a widget first and then associate an input control from your controller, simply by moving a fader or pressing a button.
That might save a LOT of time when designing a VC.

I'd also add a "Do not ask again" checkbox cause for some users a popup every time a new widget is created could be annoying.

What do you (and others) think ?

[andres robles]

Hello Massimo, if it's true how you say that being a very elaborate VC can be a delay rather than an advance, I can think of some options so that you could work on a regular basis ... or activating this option. I can think of many cases in which it would be very useful to "assign hotkeys" to the scenes at the time of creating them, many other cases where it would be interesting to add widwets to VC, and cases where it does not matter what qlc guesses where to place the widwet ... besides that there would be a memory window with many parameters (almost blender) that would slow down its configuration ... so I suggest that it should be an optional feature ... activable ... In the two photos You can see what I think better ...
PS: It is a feature that I find very useful and I think that for many cases that I faced would also be useful ... As I also think that if you have a VC design in your mind it is better to do it separately. ..
It would be nice to hear some other opinions ..... (from those who understood something)

[andres robles]

(What I propose though, is to bring up an input selection popup whenever a new widget is placed on the VC.
In this way you can decide the position of a widget first and then associate an input control from your controller, simply by moving a fader or pressing a button.
That might save a LOT of time when designing a VC.

I'd also add a "Do not ask again" checkbox cause for some users a popup every time a new widget is created could be annoying. )

I think it's a good option and I think that also accelerating the design process, it will also depend on the openings of the illuminator, it is good to be able to deactivate the pop-up window in case it is annoying.

[siegmund]

What do you (and others) think ?

I fully agree with your post.

Somehow I understood that Andres also wants to be able to assign external controls directly to scenes. I would not support that, since this will get very complicated when forgetting that one has assigned a fader to a scene and then wondering why it reacts to the fader...

[andres robles]

hello siegmund, thanks for your opinion, I think that the option to add external control directly to the scenes should be optional, so that you only activate it if you are interested, if you do not activate it, you will work normally ... forget the slider where it was assigned the scene ... well, a lighting operator that always uses common light tables usually uses tape and marker to mark the slider .... the virtue that I see the option is that everyone is free to work in a way or another, in my case would be useful for example in rock festivals to have direct and fast access to front lights or blinding or ACL type effects (par64 lamp 24v 600w) that we always record in the same slider on all tables for years .. (me, frontal to the left and punctual effects to the right, the whole center for scenes full colors, positions or shapes (fx)) ... is also useful when a light operator comes with the theater company or group of rock and asks you, I want red and in is you fader, now blue and in slider, the cut of the picture to this button ....... instead if it asks you for a chase or cue list with all the steps launched from a "next step" button it would be a discomfort or a I would add widwet to VC, so I think that if such a function is applied to QLC5, it should be activated at the user's pleasure. I think that above all it would be useful to those light operators who never saw a VC and have to design a VC with all its scenes assignments ect, no matter how fast the editing is, which it is, it's an extra time that normally they do not use, they just want their scenes on their buttons ... VC is a great invention, great, once familiar with it there are endless possibilities ... but since not all light operators know VC, it would be nice to work or do a show without having to use VC ....
a greeting!

[GGGss]

(me, frontal to the left and punctual effects to the right, the whole center for scenes full colors, positions or shapes (fx)) ... is also useful when a light operator comes with the theater company or group of rock and asks you, I want red and in is you fader, now blue and in slider, the cut of the picture to this button ....... instead if it asks you for a chase or cue list with all the steps launched from a "next step" button it would be a discomfort or a I would add widwet to VC, so I think that if such a function is applied to QLC5, it should be activated at the user's pleasure. I think that above all it would be useful to those light operators who never saw a VC and have to design a VC with all its scenes assignments ect, no matter how fast the editing is, which it is, it's an extra time that normally they do not use, they just want their scenes on their buttons ... VC is a great invention, great, once familiar with it there are endless possibilities ... but since not all light operators know VC, it would be nice to work or do a show without having to use VC ....

and here you lost me also...
Even young engineers want to have a standard desk at their disposal. (With lot of sliders and even more buttons). Thc VC part is essential since real integration can be accomplished by it.
QLC+ without VC is simple desk and a cue of 20 I guess?

Think VC as a 'macro possibility' - macro's are hated throughout the world (by those who can't understand them)

[andres robles]

VC is wonderful, adaptable to everything you have in mind, is a wonderful feature that makes qlc unique and remarkable ... the idea is not to dispense with VC, only have the ability to assign shortcuts "hotkeys" to scenes, there is not always time to prepare a VC at pleasure ... another thing is to prepare your show at home..and be able to design calmly.....