Advice Please - Newbie to QLC+ !

[cas]

Hi all,

Excuse the message as this may have been said before as I am a newbie with QLC+, I am Lighting Director for a small community drama group and looking at setting this up for portable use and physical board for main use.

we use mainly LED, which do not have a master channel (intensity), this works fine on Simple Desk mode, but when create a function to build a virtual console it does not work, is there away of providing a virtual dimmer for the lights in on this occasion.

Also looking at potentially getting the nanoKontrol2 how do I connect this up and allocate the buttons accordingly, we are using an Enttec Open DMX.

Thanks and much appreciated.

[mcallegari]

Moved to generic usage questions, even though I don't see a question there

[siegmund]

we use mainly LED, which do not have a master channel (intensity), this works fine on Simple Desk mode, but when create a function to build a virtual console it does not work, is there away of providing a virtual dimmer for the lights in on this occasion.

You might use a submaster for this purpose.

[cas]

thanks for that, how do I use the submaster feature as the is no DMX channel for intensity on lights (4 channels RGBW), I take it that submasters just automatically use the intensity of the lights.

for example setup a frame in VC, for fader 1, with colour codes and 1 fader to represent the intensity linked to the physical fader on the midi nanoKontrol2.

Thanks

edit by janosvitok: I've merged your two posts, I hope you don't mind...

[janosvitok]

RGBW channels are considered as kind of intensity channels as well, so they all will be reduced by submaster.

[cas]

RGBW channels are considered as kind of intensity channels as well, so they all will be reduced by submaster.

Ah ok, so I go into VC and select and create a Slider and set Submaster Mode, how do I get it to control certain lights or scenes, do I create a Frame for this so that it does not control everything else....ie 1 submaster per Physical fader. I will try this seeing if this works with no intensity, and let you know how it goes.

Thanks for your help.

[cas]

Hello,

I have tried this, and its still not working, I even tried changing light to 6 Channel mode which is not suitable for production environment, to get the master dimmer slider, but still not even working in functions with Red at Full on (DMX1) and Master at Full (DMX5).

Still not working in VC can someone please advice where I am going wrong.

Its working on VC if I do a Flash button, but nothing else. no sliders or toggle buttons, also the Grand Master is not working at all.

Thanks

[GGGss]

Cas,

Please attach your project file... I think while reading your comments you don't understand some fundamentals...
And can you tell me why a 6 chan light is not suitable in production? Is it because you lack the ability to select a (predefined) colour? Well ... recreate the colours in scenes and use them afterwards...

[cas]

Cas,

Please attach your project file... I think while reading your comments you don't understand some fundamentals...
And can you tell me why a 6 chan light is not suitable in production? Is it because you lack the ability to select a (predefined) colour? Well ... recreate the colours in scenes and use them afterwards...

Hi, no problem I will not got a profile saved at the moment, as was playing around just, 6 channels is not suitable for the group as lights are set to 4 Channel, as we don't have enough faders on our loaned desk and all lights setup for 4 channel. Last night managed to get the lights working live on flash buttons on Virtual Console, for the toggle buttons I have looked at the DMX Monitor it only raises the master channel when attempted in 6 channel mode. even though the actual Function Scene is Intensity at 100% and Red at Full, hope this makes sense, and I also cant seem to get the sliders working at all, however I did manage to raise these so when the button is pressed fader goes up.

I would some how like the intensity to be on the slider for each separate fader (separate frame) with generic colours. Can I then record this to a submaster so that the intensity and colour is stored for all lights within that scene on fader 1, scene 2 on fader 2 etc.

I like the look of the system and easiness to eventually use in a small community theatre environment. if this all works fine, might actually look trying to operate and edit from a Raspberry Pi in the future.

[GGGss]

Cas,

QLC+ is far far more than just a desk with sliders.
The way you should organise your lightshow needs a little bit more preparation.
f.i. we don't use sliders to change colours - we select a pre-made colour including fade-times etc...
Of course you still can use QLC+ the old fashion way but I can't imagine that you are able to change 26-some fixtures from blue to red at the same time with faders

I really suggest you invest some time learning QLC+. The instructional video's Massimo made are revealing the real power of QLC+. And you will be soo more happy afterwards. You'll start thinking in cue's, collections, chasers, cue-lists, ... etc instead of sliders. And then your work on the night itself will be very simple: Enjoy the show and press 'go' for the next lightning scene on stage.

What about that?

[cas]

Cas,

QLC+ is far far more than just a desk with sliders.
The way you should organise your lightshow needs a little bit more preparation.
f.i. we don't use sliders to change colours - we select a pre-made colour including fade-times etc...
Of course you still can use QLC+ the old fashion way but I can't imagine that you are able to change 26-some fixtures from blue to red at the same time with faders

I really suggest you invest some time learning QLC+. The instructional video's Massimo made are revealing the real power of QLC+. And you will be soo more happy afterwards. You'll start thinking in cue's, collections, chasers, cue-lists, ... etc instead of sliders. And then your work on the night itself will be very simple: Enjoy the show and press 'go' for the next lightning scene on stage.

What about that?

Thanks for your advice, I will do, but one other thing how do I get the sliders working or buttons working in Virtual Console, as the button is only raising the intensity and not the colour, when the scene is 100% on both. will work perfect with Flash buttons. Also the grand master is not working.

[GGGss]

Well ... you have to put your scene buttons into a frame together with a slider put into submaster mode.
And now I'm sure I'm talking Chinese at you...

If there is nothing active - Grandmaster (which can be changed in function) won't work. Are your fixtures definitions correct? (They should have an intensity channel) etc etc

First you have to learn some basics...
Send me your project-file and I will try to help you

[cas]

Well ... you have to put your scene buttons into a frame together with a slider put into submaster mode.
And now I'm sure I'm talking Chinese at you...

If there is nothing active - Grandmaster (which can be changed in function) won't work. Are your fixtures definitions correct? (They should have an intensity channel) etc etc

First you have to learn some basics...
Send me your project-file and I will try to help you

Thanks, I will have another shot at this over the next couple of nights, and will message you the profile to have a look, so I can set the LEDs to 6 Channel and then create a RED, GREEN, BLUE, WHITE, YELLOW scene etc) and place this in a normal frame with a Slider as submaster (do I need to set the intensity channel for the lights in the scene too) or will the submaster slider automatically put those lights on....... I will have a play around and message you profile if I an stuck. Looking at getting a MIDI controller with faders so I can set submasters for the scenes so I put 1 fader up to play the scene.

[cas]

Hi all,

I was working on my project, last night, managed to sort it for Virtual Console, as I am complete newbie to QLC+ I forgot to add a channel description when I added a new fixture to suit the LED lights for LEDJ Q Colour. Managed to get the sliders working for RGBW on level mode and Intensity for master dimmer, only tried it with 1 section of lights to get everything working before moving on.

On another note, I have discovered that when I created a Red Scene with the specific lights and raised the Red Slider to 255 and save (ignored the Intensity as I want this to work with the section Master Intensity is raised), this works on the toggle button, but when I go to switch off the button, it switches of but the Red Channel still shows the previous number as the slider on the Simple Desk stays up, which means I cant use that channel until I close the and reopen the software project. its only on the scenes that I need to work on now.

Again thank you all who replied and you have helped and supported me greatly since a complete beginner, starting to like the system now, and can see some of the points specifically for theatre use.

[siegmund]

Hey,

as already said, without a workspace file (and all custom fixture definitions) we are not really able to help you... Please also provide a step - by step guide what you are trying to achieve and what part is failing.

Regards,
siegmund

[cas]

thanks will have a look

[cas]

Managed to sort the issue with output staying up temporarily, I will send project file as soon as, but here go,

I have setup a flash button to set all channels to 0 to clear output, but when I click a colour button it goes on as it should, but I have to press button again to turn off, the button does go off, but the output remains, hence the reason I have had to create an output button, so I have to do this all the time when programming lights, is there away round this.

Also is there a way of midi mapping to APC mini certain system buttons (i.e. Operate, Live Edit, Record, Patch, Functions, Input/Output etc.

Liking the system already.

Thanks

[siegmund]

What you're describing sounds like you are using LTP. Most probably your fixture definition files are bad configured, or you made some wrong adjustments in the channel properties.

[cas]

thanks I will re have a look at my fixture file again to see if I can change it, if I can't see it I will post fixture file screen shot to let you see the channels.

Thanks

[cas]

Hi all, here is a copy of the show file, as i still require some help.

1. Its working fine as with sliders

2. When i use the Coloured buttons, it toggles on, and when press the coloured button to switch off, button switches off but output stays on.
I have made a temporary clear flash button to reset all channels to Zero to clear this, need help to get this to work so that the output goes
off when the button is pressed again.

3. I have attached a version of the led light fixtures can you please check i have created this properly.

I would appreciate the help, as still a newbie around the software, but getting there, also on another note, is it possible to midi or create buttons for system buttons on the Virtual Console (ie to Record Scene, Operate Mode, Live Edit etc) and also is there away to fix the DMX monitor into the VC or is this better eventually running on a seperate monitor.

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