Hi Massimo,
Can you tell me the location where the show files and fixtures are stored?
Also would be a good add for the documentation.
Thanks
Jimmy
File locations for show and fixture files
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Jano Svitok
Hi Jimmy,
in fact there are several places where things are stored:
1. System files - fixtures, input profiles, default gobos, etc.
2. User files - fixtures, RGB scripts, etc.
3. Show files
Now,
1. is the installation folder
2. see http://www.qlcplus.org/docs/questionsan ... ser-folder
3. Show files (.qxw) are stored wherever the user selects when saving the file.
Jano
in fact there are several places where things are stored:
1. System files - fixtures, input profiles, default gobos, etc.
2. User files - fixtures, RGB scripts, etc.
3. Show files
Now,
1. is the installation folder
2. see http://www.qlcplus.org/docs/questionsan ... ser-folder
3. Show files (.qxw) are stored wherever the user selects when saving the file.
Jano
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Willy_Pinguino
hemmm Jano, I think that the question was related to the Raspberry Pi version of QLC+...
I've founded in /usr/share a folder named qlcplus that I suppose contain the installation files for the executable,
and I've seen a hidden folder called .qlcplus in /home , where I've seen the folder for the personal fixture files,
but I'm curious about where are saved the show files that an user can load from web interface, and where are located the scripts for the autostart function... it's possible to know that pats?
I've founded in /usr/share a folder named qlcplus that I suppose contain the installation files for the executable,
and I've seen a hidden folder called .qlcplus in /home , where I've seen the folder for the personal fixture files,
but I'm curious about where are saved the show files that an user can load from web interface, and where are located the scripts for the autostart function... it's possible to know that pats?
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Massimo Callegari
Willy, Jano's answer is correct also for the Raspberry Pi.
The only thing that change is that the RPi user is root, so the .qlcplus folder is in /root and not /home/user_name as on a PC
All the rest stays the same.
To load extra resources of a project (pictures, audio, etc) you need to store them in the same path of where the project is, so QLC+ will use relative paths instead of absolute ones.
The extra contents need to be loaded via ssh. They are not loaded via web together with the project.
The auto start project is saved in the .qlcplus folder with the name "autostart.qxw"
The only thing that change is that the RPi user is root, so the .qlcplus folder is in /root and not /home/user_name as on a PC
All the rest stays the same.
To load extra resources of a project (pictures, audio, etc) you need to store them in the same path of where the project is, so QLC+ will use relative paths instead of absolute ones.
The extra contents need to be loaded via ssh. They are not loaded via web together with the project.
The auto start project is saved in the .qlcplus folder with the name "autostart.qxw"
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Willy_Pinguino
for the non linux user, that are interested in the raspberry pi version, could not be so clear that in linux a folder called ".qlcplus" is invisible using a shell command like ls or the open and save dialog box from the qlc+ interface on rpi.
using a file browser like WinSCP (like the most part of window users) you can see the hidden folders, but using the ssh from terminal (like the most part of osx users) is impossible to found that folder without a high knowledge in linux or some suggestion...
by the way, there is some comand line for the shell to list the files in a folder with the hidden files and folders too?
another thing that isn't clear for me (but I'm a lil head of wood) is, if I load more show files from the rpi interface and save it in a folder, how I can decide who of that files will be the standard file for the autostart? there is one way to set the autostart show file from the rpi interface, without using the web interface?
using a file browser like WinSCP (like the most part of window users) you can see the hidden folders, but using the ssh from terminal (like the most part of osx users) is impossible to found that folder without a high knowledge in linux or some suggestion...
by the way, there is some comand line for the shell to list the files in a folder with the hidden files and folders too?
another thing that isn't clear for me (but I'm a lil head of wood) is, if I load more show files from the rpi interface and save it in a folder, how I can decide who of that files will be the standard file for the autostart? there is one way to set the autostart show file from the rpi interface, without using the web interface?
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Massimo Callegari
"using the ssh from terminal is impossible to found that folder without a high knowledge in linux or some suggestion..."
Willy, if you don't know how to use a Linux command just type 'man' followed by the command. For example:
man ls
will give you all the instructions how to use it. You will quickly find that
ls -alh
will list also the hidden folders.
This is no rocket science, nor high knowledge. It's the Linux basics, and I suggest you to read some "Linux for dummies" guide before adventuring into the Raspberry Pi, cause you might miss all the fun that it offers to users.
As for the autostart project, I think I've already replied to that. When QLC+ finds a file called "autostart.qxw" in the .qlcplus folder, it will automatically load it.
You can transfer all the projects you want via ssh (using the scp command) and then, when needed, you can just copy them over autostart.qxw to load them automatically at boot.
Willy, if you don't know how to use a Linux command just type 'man' followed by the command. For example:
man ls
will give you all the instructions how to use it. You will quickly find that
ls -alh
will list also the hidden folders.
This is no rocket science, nor high knowledge. It's the Linux basics, and I suggest you to read some "Linux for dummies" guide before adventuring into the Raspberry Pi, cause you might miss all the fun that it offers to users.
As for the autostart project, I think I've already replied to that. When QLC+ finds a file called "autostart.qxw" in the .qlcplus folder, it will automatically load it.
You can transfer all the projects you want via ssh (using the scp command) and then, when needed, you can just copy them over autostart.qxw to load them automatically at boot.
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Willy_Pinguino
you are right about the linux knowledge, but I figure that are not too much linux experts in the world... this is the cause that I've said "high knowledge"... similar, I figure that between rpi users there are not so much linux experts but there is a lot of people that would learn more... without indication that there is an hidden folder, without an indication about where are located the hidden files, no one can become expert immediatly...
I could agree that is annoying to repeat ever the same things, expecially if that things are written in the official guide, but a quick answer like:
"installation files with official fixtures, input profiles and gobos, in raspberry are on /usr/share/qlcplus
user files with personal fixtures, rgb scripts, etc. and the autostart.qxw file are in a hidden folder named .qlcplus placed in the root directory (/root/.qlcplus/)
the shows are where you save it
to see and navigate the hidden files and folders use the ls comand with the -alh option (ls -alh)"
this is what I've learned from you and Jano in this tread and I thanks to you for this teaching, but I'm sure that in this form, this knowledge is more easy to learn for every one than before... with respect and thanks to you a lot for your hard work, ever.
I could agree that is annoying to repeat ever the same things, expecially if that things are written in the official guide, but a quick answer like:
"installation files with official fixtures, input profiles and gobos, in raspberry are on /usr/share/qlcplus
user files with personal fixtures, rgb scripts, etc. and the autostart.qxw file are in a hidden folder named .qlcplus placed in the root directory (/root/.qlcplus/)
the shows are where you save it
to see and navigate the hidden files and folders use the ls comand with the -alh option (ls -alh)"
this is what I've learned from you and Jano in this tread and I thanks to you for this teaching, but I'm sure that in this form, this knowledge is more easy to learn for every one than before... with respect and thanks to you a lot for your hard work, ever.
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Massimo Callegari
Willy, I guess we can discuss for hours about this...
I understand your point, but you need to understand mine.
1. this is not a forum to teach people how to use Linux.. There's plenty of manuals and blogs around. If you don't know how to list hidden folders just Google it ! By the way, the folder is not hidden because we are evil, but because that's the standard way Linux works.
2. locations of QLC+ files are written in the user manual: http://www.qlcplus.org/docs/questionsandanswers.html
See last question. Jano replied to the original question of this thread the same day. That was all the information needed.
3. We came up with a 150 page manual (+8 pages for the RPi) and it never seems enough for you guys. There are open source project with scarse documentation or none at all. Also I broke my back to provide almost 3 hours of video tutorials. Please appreciate that.
4. Where do we set the minimum bar for the provided information ?
Tomorrow there will be a guy saying "I'd love to use QLC+ but I know nothing about computers. How do I turn my PC on ? It's not written in the manual !"
You understand this is ridicolous.
We cannot spend our spare time trying to imagine all the questions that people can ask.
Anyway to (hopefully) conclude this discussion, I've added to the RPi guide where the autostart project is saved.
I understand your point, but you need to understand mine.
1. this is not a forum to teach people how to use Linux.. There's plenty of manuals and blogs around. If you don't know how to list hidden folders just Google it ! By the way, the folder is not hidden because we are evil, but because that's the standard way Linux works.
2. locations of QLC+ files are written in the user manual: http://www.qlcplus.org/docs/questionsandanswers.html
See last question. Jano replied to the original question of this thread the same day. That was all the information needed.
3. We came up with a 150 page manual (+8 pages for the RPi) and it never seems enough for you guys. There are open source project with scarse documentation or none at all. Also I broke my back to provide almost 3 hours of video tutorials. Please appreciate that.
4. Where do we set the minimum bar for the provided information ?
Tomorrow there will be a guy saying "I'd love to use QLC+ but I know nothing about computers. How do I turn my PC on ? It's not written in the manual !"
You understand this is ridicolous.
We cannot spend our spare time trying to imagine all the questions that people can ask.
Anyway to (hopefully) conclude this discussion, I've added to the RPi guide where the autostart project is saved.
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apl4
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If you are using a PC, you obviously can't view the folders on the mini-SD card from the RPI. Try a program called Ext2Explore to view them, or Paragon extFS. Both are free. With this you can develop your fixtures and shows on the PC, then put your SD card out of your Raspberry Pi in your PC, and explore folders / transfer files.
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apl4
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Just found it's easier to just use the web interface. You can load fixtures and projects from there.apl4 wrote:If you are using a PC, you obviously can't view the folders on the mini-SD card from the RPI. Try a program called Ext2Explore to view them, or Paragon extFS. Both are free. With this you can develop your fixtures and shows on the PC, then put your SD card out of your Raspberry Pi in your PC, and explore folders / transfer files.