"Observing" - directive is not copied

[siegmund]

I came across a thing I'm not shure if it's a bug or a feature.

When copying a frame with some sliders, the "observe and update" option in the sliders of the copied frame is lost. See workbench attached: Left is the original frame, right the copied one. Left the checkbox is checked, right not.

Maybe somebody could tell whether that's expected or not.

copy frame.qxw

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[plugz]

You are right, it's now fixed in git.

Thanks for reporting

[siegmund]

I'm impressed how fast you guys are

You're doing a great job!

[mcallegari]

7 minutes ! That's a record

[giacomo]

maybe it's an issue related, it happened with 2 different file from a previous qlcplus version.
I copied a frame with knobs and after programming to different inputs and functions, the copied knobs were still controlled by the inputs of the original frame.
I don't have the files anymore, to solve the problems I deleted all the knobs and redrawn them again.

[plugz]

maybe it's an issue related, it happened with 2 different file from a previous qlcplus version.
I copied a frame with knobs and after programming to different inputs and functions, the copied knobs were still controlled by the inputs of the original frame.
I don't have the files anymore, to solve the problems I deleted all the knobs and redrawn them again.

I think you misunderstood how a copy works. Let's try a simplified example.

So, you first had a knob "KNOB A" controlled by input "INPUT ONE".

Then you copy KNOB A into KNOB B. KNOB B input it then INPUT ONE. OK, nice.
So we have
KNOB A - INPUT ONE
KNOB B - INPUT ONE

Then you change the input of KNOB A to INPUT TWO.
So we have
KNOB A - INPUT TWO
KNOB B - INPUT ONE

And... this is totally expected and the normal behavior of QLC+. KNOB A and KNOB B are not linked. They are independant. KNOB B is a COPY of KNOB A.

[giacomo]

I think I wasn't enough clear:

[ frame A / knob A ] has been copied, they're already assigned so now I re-assign the copied [ knob B / frame B ],
the end result is:
KNOB A - INPUT 1 - FUNCTION X ## not changed ##
KNOB B - INPUT 2 - FUNCTION Y

KNOB A [ frame A ] was controlling KNOB B [ frame B ] too, I delete KNOB B and redraw it, everything is independent now.

I've noticed it because it has happened me twice with 2 different shows, same frame-copy operation, I haven't noticed it copying knobs inside the same frame.
Tomorrow I'll try to reproduce it with the original file.
regards

[plugz]

I think I wasn't enough clear:

[ frame A / knob A ] has been copied, they're already assigned so now I re-assign the copied [ knob B / frame B ],
the end result is:
KNOB A - INPUT 1 - FUNCTION X ## not changed ##
KNOB B - INPUT 2 - FUNCTION Y

KNOB A [ frame A ] was controlling KNOB B [ frame B ] too, I delete KNOB B and redraw it, everything is independent now.

I've noticed it because it has happened me twice with 2 different shows, same frame-copy operation, I haven't noticed it copying knobs inside the same frame.
Tomorrow I'll try to reproduce it with the original file.
regards

I still don't understand what's the issue.

[giacomo]

Hi Plugz, I guess I've to narrowed it, it happens with knobs and sliders too, no matters if they're copied inside or outside a frame, it's related to the virtual console live edit.
Once the show has been recorded and reloaded the issue disappears, so I enclose the start file to reproduce it.

start file:
knob 1 > scene 1
slider 2 > scene 2
button > scene 3

1- in the virtual console copy the frame (just to try it all together, same result by copying just one item)
2- switch to live mode - of course now when you move one control the copied one will follow
3- toggle on console live edit and change the assigned scenes in the copied frame to unused ones
4- toggle off console live edit: now if you move the first knob or slider the copied one is still following

[giacomo]

I use this opportunity to ask if someone with a midi controller has tried the issue

frame pages and knobs - with a midi controller

,
I confirm that is still happening to me.

have a good Sunday

[plugz]

Hello,

Hi Plugz, I guess I've to narrowed it, it happens with knobs and sliders too, no matters if they're copied inside or outside a frame, it's related to the virtual console live edit.
Once the show has been recorded and reloaded the issue disappears, so I enclose the start file to reproduce it.

start file:
knob 1 > scene 1
slider 2 > scene 2
button > scene 3

1- in the virtual console copy the frame (just to try it all together, same result by copying just one item)
2- switch to live mode - of course now when you move one control the copied one will follow
3- toggle on console live edit and change the assigned scenes in the copied frame to unused ones
4- toggle off console live edit: now if you move the first knob or slider the copied one is still following

OK, this is a more clear explanation. Thanks. I managed to reproduce this issue.

I use this opportunity to ask if someone with a midi controller has tried the issue

frame pages and knobs - with a midi controller

,
I confirm that is still happening to me.

have a good Sunday

You've already hijacked this thread with another issue, please don't bring a third one here. Mixing threads will make the forum a mess

[plugz]

Hi Plugz, I guess I've to narrowed it, it happens with knobs and sliders too, no matters if they're copied inside or outside a frame, it's related to the virtual console live edit.
Once the show has been recorded and reloaded the issue disappears, so I enclose the start file to reproduce it.

start file:
knob 1 > scene 1
slider 2 > scene 2
button > scene 3

1- in the virtual console copy the frame (just to try it all together, same result by copying just one item)
2- switch to live mode - of course now when you move one control the copied one will follow
3- toggle on console live edit and change the assigned scenes in the copied frame to unused ones
4- toggle off console live edit: now if you move the first knob or slider the copied one is still following

This is now fixed in git.