Moving lights - fine movement?
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Jed Nou
Hello, is there any plan to support fine movement e.g. for Martin MAC 250 Krypton, the lamp is using two channels for tilt and 2xpan. I am not able to create fine movement to set them to Stop position. The movement is not continuous and it looks distucting. Any ide how to solve that? Thanks
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Jano Svitok
Hi,
the EFX engine should use both channels for pan&tilt (e.g. 16bit positions). Obviously, there might be a problem somewhere. I don't understand exactly what are you
doing. Can you describe it in more detail, eventually post your workspace?
I know that preview area may be edgy sometimes, but that should not translate to real fixture (again. unless there's a bug somewhere...)
the EFX engine should use both channels for pan&tilt (e.g. 16bit positions). Obviously, there might be a problem somewhere. I don't understand exactly what are you
doing. Can you describe it in more detail, eventually post your workspace?
I know that preview area may be edgy sometimes, but that should not translate to real fixture (again. unless there's a bug somewhere...)
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Jed Nou
EFX works OK. I'm using simple scene with predefined tilt/pan channel value (Stop position). When I want to switch between EFX and my Stop position then the lights are not moving fluently.
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Jano Svitok
Since Pan/Tilt are considered LTP in QLC+, the movement smoothness should come from the head itself. I can see following causes of the problem:
1. the movement speed channel has weird value (I haven't played with Kryptons, so I don't really know what the values do, though a friend of mine has a bunch of them).
2. there is some fading involved, despite the channels being LTP, and the fading is coarse.
3. something else
So: check your pan/tilt speed setting, try to exclude the channels from fading in Fixture tab fade button (http://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://r ... nager.html)
If that fails, post your (full or simplified) workspace so we can try to reproduce.
1. the movement speed channel has weird value (I haven't played with Kryptons, so I don't really know what the values do, though a friend of mine has a bunch of them).
2. there is some fading involved, despite the channels being LTP, and the fading is coarse.
3. something else
So: check your pan/tilt speed setting, try to exclude the channels from fading in Fixture tab fade button (http://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://r ... nager.html)
If that fails, post your (full or simplified) workspace so we can try to reproduce.
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Jed Nou
Here is my console. To reproduce: run "top movement" and then "stop pos" button. You will see, how the movement is uneven.
There may be some fading - but i dont understand what you mean by fading and LTP.
There may be some fading - but i dont understand what you mean by fading and LTP.
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Jano Svitok
I see your problem now.
The question is: Your stop scene has 6 seconds fade in set, and doesn't contain fine pan/tilt channels; problem: fading is course.
The issue is that while EFX work with 16bit channels (PAN/TILT), Scenes do not (I'm not 100% sure, but from what I checked it seems so). So even if your stop scene contained pan/tilt fine channels, it would not help - pan coarse and pan fine would be faded independently and in parallel.
Quick solution for you, although not as flexible would be to use vector mode of the mac's - set channel 16 (pan/tilt speed) to something from the fast->slow range and set fade in to 0. Don't forget to set pan/tilt speed of your efx to 0 (tracking mode).
The easiest way to do it is to create "tracking on" scene (channel 16 @ 0, head will move as fast as possible, speed is controlled by QLC+) and "tracking off" (channel 16 @ e.g. 230, speed of movement controlled by mac itself). Add tracking on to triangl collection, and make new collection for the stop pos button (stop pos3 + tracking off).
I don't have any mac 250 available, so I can't check it with real fixture. I don't even have any moving head here now, so these are more or less guesses. I will try to bring a real head here, so I can check it properly.
The question is: Your stop scene has 6 seconds fade in set, and doesn't contain fine pan/tilt channels; problem: fading is course.
The issue is that while EFX work with 16bit channels (PAN/TILT), Scenes do not (I'm not 100% sure, but from what I checked it seems so). So even if your stop scene contained pan/tilt fine channels, it would not help - pan coarse and pan fine would be faded independently and in parallel.
Quick solution for you, although not as flexible would be to use vector mode of the mac's - set channel 16 (pan/tilt speed) to something from the fast->slow range and set fade in to 0. Don't forget to set pan/tilt speed of your efx to 0 (tracking mode).
The easiest way to do it is to create "tracking on" scene (channel 16 @ 0, head will move as fast as possible, speed is controlled by QLC+) and "tracking off" (channel 16 @ e.g. 230, speed of movement controlled by mac itself). Add tracking on to triangl collection, and make new collection for the stop pos button (stop pos3 + tracking off).
I don't have any mac 250 available, so I can't check it with real fixture. I don't even have any moving head here now, so these are more or less guesses. I will try to bring a real head here, so I can check it properly.