Hi everyone,
I needed to fade a running chase in and out, starting the process manually but the having fade in and fade out timed and automated. I may have missed something, but couldn't find a way to do this.
Obviously the fade in and out could be done manually with the intensity parameter or a playback slider, but this doesn't help the running out of fingers to control things problem.
One approach to solving this problem would be to add overall fade in and fade out (and hold) parameters to the chaser editor, similar to the EFX editor.
But with proposal 2 for submasters, automation of fade in and out could be generalised in the following way:
a) when the submaster is set up there is an option to “use timings” (automate)
b) the slider is then reduced to a button which starts and stops the timings
c) the required timings (affecting only the submaster level) are set up on a modified chaser editor so any number of fade in /out and hold times are set using chaser steps.
Additional options:
b1) you could opt to keep the slider, in which case it would override the timings as with the crossfade sliders on the cue list.
b2) the button could be modified to start, stop or freeze (set next hold time to infinite) the timings – see this proposal:
https://sourceforge.net/p/qlcplus/discu ... 6abf/#3909
d) when setting up a set of timings, there could be an option to apply them to more than one submaster.
Automating timings on submasters
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Connor Faulder
I'm not entirely sure I understand what Michael is saying but along with the new sub-master idea, I think it'd be useful to be able to put a speed dial in a (solo) frame and have it fade everything in the frame.
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Michael Clements
Hi Connor,
Now it's my turn to not quite get what you mean! If you mean a speed dial that would proportionally change the timing of all chasers and EFX being run in a particular frame (say from 0% to 300% of the values set up in the functions editor), then that sounds really useful idea.
Returning to the original topic of automated timing, the basic idea is simple – you press a button and a running chaser fades in just as a scene would. Release the button and it fades out, still running. The generalised idea allows for all sorts of complication (and potential confusion!)
It's easy to achieve timed fade in and out with an EFX because you only have to fade one set of intensities in and out (the lamps in the moving lights), but with a chaser a lot of intensities are being constantly changed and reduced values would have to be recalculated continually during fade in and fade out.
With some LED fixtures you could put the master dimmers into a scene to do the fade in and out and use the RGB(+AW) intensities to build the chaser but this won't, of course, work with generic fixtures.
Now it's my turn to not quite get what you mean! If you mean a speed dial that would proportionally change the timing of all chasers and EFX being run in a particular frame (say from 0% to 300% of the values set up in the functions editor), then that sounds really useful idea.
Returning to the original topic of automated timing, the basic idea is simple – you press a button and a running chaser fades in just as a scene would. Release the button and it fades out, still running. The generalised idea allows for all sorts of complication (and potential confusion!)
It's easy to achieve timed fade in and out with an EFX because you only have to fade one set of intensities in and out (the lamps in the moving lights), but with a chaser a lot of intensities are being constantly changed and reduced values would have to be recalculated continually during fade in and fade out.
With some LED fixtures you could put the master dimmers into a scene to do the fade in and out and use the RGB(+AW) intensities to build the chaser but this won't, of course, work with generic fixtures.
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Connor Faulder
OK, thanks.
Now I get what you meant
My idea was basically that it would be nice if you could put a speed dial in (or link a speed dial to) a frame and have it control the elements in that frame (including sliders.
A simple example would be that you could set a fade time of 3 seconds on a speed dial and everything in a specific frame would fade in/out for 3 seconds when pressed/moved.
Now I get what you meant
My idea was basically that it would be nice if you could put a speed dial in (or link a speed dial to) a frame and have it control the elements in that frame (including sliders.
A simple example would be that you could set a fade time of 3 seconds on a speed dial and everything in a specific frame would fade in/out for 3 seconds when pressed/moved.